In this series, we interview people who are Dial Movers – champions of all women and underrepresented groups in tech. Today we’re speaking to Lisa Bull, VP of Learning Excellence at Ceridian – one of our proud Founding Partners. Lisa is a strong advocate for women in the workplace and employee resource groups, in particular, the YOUnity groups at Ceridian.


So Lisa, tell us a little bit more about you?

I’m a Mom to a 19-year-old and four pets! At work, I’m the VP of Learning Excellence at Ceridian. I’m passionate about empowering people to grow and evolve and about helping others understand and embrace their unique strengths.

And this certainly shows in your continuous work with employee resource groups at Ceridian – what inspired you to start one?

Honestly? The thought of one person feeling that they didn’t belong or weren’t included in our culture is what got me started. I started with the Ceridian Women’s Network as I’ve focused on the advancement and empowerment of women throughout my academic and professional career.

I then expanded to include other groups who came forward and were looking for opportunities to have their voices heard and recognized.

What important learnings have you discovered through these YOUnity groups?

More recently I’ve become acutely aware of the privileged position I hold and the responsibility that comes with that position.

I think it’s up to me to continue to find ways to use my voice and my position to elevate those who perhaps don’t enjoy the same platforms that I do.

I encourage people reading this to take the time to check into your own unconscious biases. We all have them! You can take one of the assessments via the Implicit Project.

That’s incredible! At #movethedial, we completely agree that acknowledging privilege and using it to empower others is so important. Do you have any tips for how people can do this?

I think that it’s important for all of us to look around and find just one thing that we can do to make it easier, better, more accepting for those around us. It doesn’t have to be fancy or complex. Could just be sitting with someone for a coffee. Or offering for someone else to lead a meeting who normally doesn’t get this chance.

Are there any particular initiatives happening in Ceridian right now that you’d like to give a special mention to?

Yes! I’m incredibly proud of the work that Ceridian has done to achieve EDGE Certification. If you haven’t heard of it, EDGE is the leading global assessment methodology and business certification standard for gender equality. We’re just getting ready to begin the work for our recertification and hope to advance our certification to the next level globally.

Dial Moving is very cyclical. Often, when someone moves the dial for you, you’re motivated to pay it forward. Who stands out when you think about people who championed you in your career?

I’ve had the great good fortune to have a couple of leaders who championed me. Cande Dandele was a leader who knew my passions and my strengths and starting offering opportunities for me to use them. She gently pushed me out of my comfort zone and introduced me to new people, new challenges.

Lisa Sterling, who is Ceridian’s CPO has also been a great champion. She totally accepts me for who I am and knows exactly how to help me leverage my strengths. I’ve always had the sense that not everyone has been able to “get me” – but both of these amazing women have.

Finally, what advice would you give to organizations who are seeing the amazing work you’re doing for women in tech at Ceridian and want to replicate it?

Firstly, you need to plan and be purposeful with that plan. Change will not happen “over time” without a meaningful plan.

Without specific and concrete strategies and targets, the change will be VERY slow.

I also think it’s important to find ways to demonstrate the ROIs on your initiative. Having lots of data to support the value of expanding the diversity of teams is crucial, especially when it comes to things like innovation!